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I'm trying to upload the SSA forms for the SOAR online course and I'm getting a message that the file size is too large. How do I submit my forms for the course if I cannot upload them?

If you are having difficulty uploading documents for the SOAR online course, please contact us at 518-439-7415 x2. We can walk you through the uploading process or can arrange to accept the documents via email or fax.

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I am completing the SOAR Online Course and I'm wondering how many CEUs will be awarded to me after completion? Also, what is the time frame for getting that recognition?

Upon successful completion of the practice case in the SOAR Online Course, you will receive a Certificate of Completion and 20 continuing education (CE) contact hours from the National Association of Social Workers (NASW).

Once you submit your case study packet in Class 7, your application packet will be reviewed by SOAR TA Center staff who will provide you with feedback. If your application packet is complete and without major errors or omissions, you will receive your certificate. This can take up to 10 business days. If there are significant errors/omissions, you will be invited to revise your packet and resubmit it for a second review. If the errors/omissions have been corrected, you will receive a Certificate of Completion with your CEs.

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What if a client is new to our program, and has already applied for and is in the appeal process for SSI? Can they still be considered for SOAR?

The SOAR process can definitely be used to assist applicants with appeals, as SOAR practitioners are often well positioned to assist given their relationships with applicants and knowledge of their impairments and related functional limitations. SOAR case managers can help by gathering additional medical records, writing a Medical Summary Report, and assisting with SSA forms specific to the appeal process. More information on assisting applicants with appeals, including a full issue brief with tips for practitioners, is available in the SOAR Library.

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How do I download SSA forms from the SOAR Online Course to my computer where I can complete them?

All of the forms required for the SOAR online course are located in Class 1 Practice Case page, “Meet your Client”. Right-click on each file, choose "Save Target As" (or "Save Link As"), and save in an easily-accessible location on your computer. The forms may also be opened as pdfs and then completed and saved. The course will instruct you on when each form needs to be completed and uploaded to the website. If you have any trouble uploading the completed forms, you can see our Troubleshooting Tips.

If you are looking to download and complete SSA forms outside of the SOAR Online Course, many forms can be found in our Library or on the SSA website.

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Can I get an Online Course certificate of completion even though I'm not licensed as a Social Worker or MFTI, etc.? I work for a non profit.

Yes, as long as you successfully complete the practice case component of the SOAR Online Course, you will receive a certificate of completion. It comes with 20 CEUs from the National Association of Social Workers for those who are licensed, but the course is open and available for those who are not licensed.

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How long should one class last?

We estimate that the full SOAR Online Course takes approximately 16-20 hours to complete, including time spent working on the practice case study. The length of each class varies, as some classes contain more articles than others. Also, we designed the course so that trainees can work through it at their own pace. As a result, the time spent in each class varies from person to person.

If you are finding that the classes are taking a significant amount of time and you have questions about the material, I encourage you to reach out to your SOAR TA Center Liaison.

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How long does it take to find out if you passed the course?

All complete packets submitted to SOAR TA Center will be reviewed within 10 business days. If your application packet is complete and without major errors or omissions, you will receive a Certificate of Completion. If there are significant errors/omissions, you will be invited to revise your packet and resubmit it for a second review. Once we receive your updated documents, you will hear from us within 7 business days. If the errors/omissions have been corrected, you will receive a Certificate of Completion.

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After registering for the online course, at what point has it been too long to send in the MSR?

It's never been too long! You are welcome to submit your documents for the SOAR Online Course practice case at any time and the system will never time you out.

If you have specific questions about your practice case, email them to soaronline@prainc.com.

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Question:
Is it true that applicants always get denied initially and then win on appeal?

This is definitely something we hear quite a bit and a very pervasive rumor that an applicant has to be denied X number or times, or can only win on appeal. The truth is that if the evidence is in the initial filing showing that an applicant meets the criteria for SSI or SSDI, he/she will be approved at the initial stage. Using the SOAR model results in higher approval rates (see our national outcomes) because we focus on getting all of the information in the file from the beginning, whereas many people who are eligible for benefits are denied because they don’t have assistance in gathering this documentation.

Some lawyers who take fees for assisting with disability claims specialize in appeals and don’t provide the evidence in the initial stage – they wait for the application to be denied and then work on the appeal. For an application at the appeal stage to be successful, the vast majority of the time it requires new evidence that wasn’t originally presented (there are some cases that are overturned due to oversights at DDS). So, it’s not that DDS wants to deny the case from the beginning, they just didn’t have the right information. It doesn’t save them any money to automatically deny people and then send them to appeal (in fact, it actually costs them more money in adjudicator time, medical records requests, and consultative exams).

All of that said, we understand why people think this is true. The overall national approval rate for SSI/SSDI (without SOAR) is only 29%. So yes, that means 71% of people are denied. It's not possible to know how many applicants needed more evidence and how many just didn't meet the disability criteria, but it certainly leads to many myths about the process.

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How much money can a person make and still receive SSI?

If a person is working while applying for SSI and is earning above the Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA) limit set annually by SSA, they will not be eligible for benefits.

However, SSA has many work incentive programs for SSI beneficiaries to assist their efforts to return to work. These programs exclude some income/resources so that SSI recipients can attempt work, and even earn above SGA, without fear of losing their benefits. We recommend that beneficiaries speak with a work incentives specialist to discuss how work will affects their own benefits. A good place to start to find local resources is SSA's Ticket to Work website.

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