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Question:
Should I actually include information from the Listings and Grids in the MSR, or should I wait until the applicant is denied?

The SAMHSA SOAR TA Center recommends that you don’t cite the Listing and Grid numbers, e.g.) Ms. Jones meets Listing 12.04, and the alternative Grid rule 203.03. Rather, at the DDS level (initial and reconsideration) we suggest providing a description of how the applicant meets a particular Listing(s) or Grid rule through specific examples from the medical records, applicant quotes, and other collateral sources.

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The physician in my clinic refuses to read or sign my Medical Summary Report. What do I do?

It is unfortunate when we run across physicians who are unwilling to help people access the benefits that they are entitled to, although it is a common problem.  Many doctors will say that they have not seen a person enough to support a report such as the MSR.  Sometimes doctors on ACT (Assertive Community Treatment) teams or in PSR (Psychosocial Rehab) programs may be willing to co-sign reports. When you can’t find a doctor to cosign the report, we recommend you submit the MSR as collateral information along with the medical records that you have collected that document the diagnostic information from a physician.  

You may want to find out why they are refusing to sign the report. Is it because they feel they don't know enough to sign it?  Or that it wasn't written by them so they don't want to sign it?  Are there other reasons?  One of the things we find is that the doctors often misunderstand what we are asking them to do. They believe that, by signing the report, they are "approving" the person for disability benefits. DDS makes that decision. What they're doing is simply attesting that the information contained in this report is true. It's fine if they even write a statement that they believe the information in this report is true. 

You might remind the doctor and the clinic/hospital that when someone is approved for SSI/SSDI they are also going to be eligible for Medicaid/Medicare which means retroactive reimbursement for services provided and ongoing payment for treatment and services in the future.  

One SOAR program contacted the state medical association for the names of retired physicians and asked if anyone was willing to do one assessment pro-bono.  It was fairly successful.

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What if an SSI/SSDI beneficiary gets a job and earns over the allowed limit and has to pay back money over time? Should they cut back on what they earn, quit, or what should they do?

First, here is some information about overpayments and how to help prevent them in the future: Avoiding and Managing SSI/SSDI Overpayments. Reporting earnings is absolutely essential to prevent overpayments. SSA has some options for requesting waivers of overpayments and can set up payment plans if they deny the waiver request. 

Deciding whether to quit or cut back their hours depends on the person’s circumstances. No matter what, they need to report their earnings. Those earnings will impact SSI and SSDI differently (read some basic information about SSA Work Incentives). For some people, they can earn a lot more income by working and if they are feeling well and are able to work, that is probably what they should do (their decision!). For others, the stability of their SSDI payment is important and so they work under SGA each month to keep their benefit. Ultimately, I would recommend that they talk to a Benefits Counselor to discuss their options.

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What suggestions do you have for completing an MSR when a client refuses to provide personal historical information (such as about family, friends, experiences, etc) and it appears related to their disorder?

If a person is guarded when you are interviewing them for the MSR, you can explain to them the importance of you gathering this information and providing it to Social Security as part of the SSI/SSDI application process. If they still don't want to provide you information then you can document in the MSR the person's guarded nature, their behavior and symptoms you observe, and document that you believe it to be due to the symptoms of their mental illness (paranoia, delusions, suspiciousness, etc.). You can try to obtain the information you need for the MSR from the person's medical records and if they are willing to sign ROIs, you can attempt to interview collateral sources such as family, friends, case managers, etc. to obtain information to include in the MSR. 

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When the MSR is signed by an Acceptable Medical Source (AMS) is there any HIPAA concern if the MSR contains information from other treating providers?

An MSR that has been written based on properly released records can be shared with the primary AMS.  At the point of obtaining the signature, it is primarily a privacy issue, not HIPAA. However, it would be a best practice to have a release signed by the applicant permitting the case worker to communicate with the AMS.

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