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Question:
Is it necessary to have a psychiatrist conduct the Mental Status Exam (MSE) on an applicant or will a licensed social worker suffice?

The Mental Status Exam must be performed by an "Acceptable Medical Source" (AMS) in order to establish a "medically determinable physical or mental impairment."

Acceptable Medical Sources include physicians, psychologists, advanced practice nurse practitioners (APRN), or physician assistants (PA).  Further, the APRN category includes: Certified Nurse Midwife, Nurse Practitioner, Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, and Clinical Nurse Specialist. Audiologists are also acceptable medical sources for hearing-related disorders.

Licensed Clinical Social Workers (LCSWs) are not included.

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My agency received a bill for medical records. What should we do if we do not have funding available to pay the bill?

Most states have laws that regulate what health care providers can charge individuals for copies of their medical records. However, these rules do not necessarily apply to providers requesting records. In addition, some states provide an exception for records needed to apply for a disability benefits program and stipulate that they be provided at no-cost. For more information on state statutes and regulations regarding the collection of fees for medical records, click here.

If your state does not require a fee-waiver, we recommend contacting the director of the medical records department and advocating for or negotiating one. Explain that the individual is homeless and that you, as a mutual provider, are unable to pay for the records. Let the director know that the records will be used for a disability application and that, upon approval, the individual will likely be eligible for Medicaid and/or Medicare benefits that will pay for uncompensated care that the provider has given as well as future care that is provided. Therefore, it is in the provider’s best interest for the individual’s application to be well supported and documented as an approval may lead to retroactive and future reimbursements.

In addition, offer to the director of the medical records department that you would be happy to write a letter to the administrator of his/her agency regarding how helpful the director has been as well as the potential financial recoupment that such collaboration will mean to the provider.

If they are unwilling to waive the fees, try contacting United Way or other community action agencies that may be able to pay all or part of the bill.

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My client has not been completely honest with hospital staff because he "does not trust people." Therefore, his medical records do not show all of his illnesses. Should I send all of the records I have, or just the parts that actually show his illnesses?

You should definitely send all of the medical records. SSA has a rule called the “All Evidence Rule” which requires applicants (through their representative) to submit all medical information known, which includes knowledge of impairment and/or treatment sources. 

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Should I file a SSI/SSDI claim when there are no medical records available?

Yes, you should file a SOAR-assisted application because even if you don’t have access to the medical evidence, DDS will request directly from prior treating sources and/or schedule appropriate Consultative Examinations (CE) to obtain diagnoses. Remember, SSA needs a diagnosis to make a disability determination. Remember, to write in the “Remarks Section” on SSA forms, about your efforts to obtain medical information so that DDS will know what they need to do to medically develop the claim.

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Some of the records I received from medical facilities are on a disc, how do you recommend submitting these to DDS? I have printed limited pages for MSR writing, but not the disc in completion.

This is a great question! While DDS does not have a way to process records received via disk, this sounds like a good opportunity to speak with them about signing up for Electronic Records Express, which allows you to upload medical records directly into an applicant’s file from your computer without having to print them. I recommend reaching out to your DDS Professional Relations Officer, or your local SOAR contact, for details on how to register.  This should be a quick process, allowing you to upload these records without delaying your current case.

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What are your recommendations if the client does not have enough medical documentation to support their illness ?

To meet SSA’s definition of disability, the applicant’s diagnosis must be documented in medical records, laboratory reports, or other clinical findings of a physician or psychologist. DDS prefers that medical evidence come from an ongoing treatment provider. If this medical documentation is not available because the applicant has not received treatment for these conditions, we recommend that SOAR practitioners try to arrange for a physician or psychologist to conduct assessments, including documenting the applicant’s diagnosis and functioning, before submitting the SSI/SSDI application.

If it is not possible to arrange an evaluation before submitting the application, DDS may arrange for a consultative exam (CE) for the applicant, including physical or psychiatric testing based on the applicant’s alleged conditions. More information about CEs can be found here. In these instances, it is especially important that the SOAR practitioner provides comprehensive information about the applicant’s impairments in functioning through the Medical Summary Report. Collateral information from caseworkers, family members, and former employers can also be helpful in supporting an application with limited medical documentation.

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What if an SSI/SSDI beneficiary gets a job and earns over the allowed limit and has to pay back money over time? Should they cut back on what they earn, quit, or what should they do?

First, here is some information about overpayments and how to help prevent them in the future: Avoiding and Managing SSI/SSDI Overpayments. Reporting earnings is absolutely essential to prevent overpayments. SSA has some options for requesting waivers of overpayments and can set up payment plans if they deny the waiver request. 

Deciding whether to quit or cut back their hours depends on the person’s circumstances. No matter what, they need to report their earnings. Those earnings will impact SSI and SSDI differently (read some basic information about SSA Work Incentives). For some people, they can earn a lot more income by working and if they are feeling well and are able to work, that is probably what they should do (their decision!). For others, the stability of their SSDI payment is important and so they work under SGA each month to keep their benefit. Ultimately, I would recommend that they talk to a Benefits Counselor to discuss their options.

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What is the PATH Program?

The Projects for Assistance in Transition from Homelessness (PATH) program is administered by the Center for Mental Health Services, a component of the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA). PATH is a formula grant to the 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. There are nearly 600 local organizations that provide PATH services. PATH provides services to people with serious mental illness, including those with co-occurring substance use disorders, who are experiencing homelessness or at imminent risk of becoming homeless.

PATH and SOAR programs directly complement each other’s work and nearly half of the SOAR State Team Leads are also the State PATH Contacts. The PATH program’s objective to connect individuals to mental health services and stable housing is more easily accomplished when people who are homeless have access to the income and health insurance that comes with Social Security benefits. SOAR provides PATH case managers the tools necessary to expedite access to these benefits, resulting in improved housing and treatment outcomes.

Read more: PATH and SOAR Overview

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When requesting medical records, what type of records are specifically needed? I requested ALL records for a client, and received over 500 pages from the hospital. In the future, can I make a more specific request for efficiency purposes?

Great question! While we do typically advise to collect all records, 500 pages is understandably a lot! Not all applicants will have this many, but if you are seeing that certain hospitals/providers tend to send significant amounts (particularly if they aren't helpful for the application), you could ask for: Inpatient hospitalization records, discharge summaries, outpatient/emergency records, and psychiatric examinations/mental status exams. Those are all pretty key for the application. When you submit the records to DDS, I'd recommend adding a note that these were all that you requested, so that it doesn't look like you just weren't sending everything you have.

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Question:
When the MSR is signed by an Acceptable Medical Source (AMS) is there any HIPAA concern if the MSR contains information from other treating providers?

An MSR that has been written based on properly released records can be shared with the primary AMS.  At the point of obtaining the signature, it is primarily a privacy issue, not HIPAA. However, it would be a best practice to have a release signed by the applicant permitting the case worker to communicate with the AMS.

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