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Question:
I received a notice with a patient’s alcohol and drug abuse records that I could not “further disclose” the information. How can I send them on to SSA?

When providers of substance use services (drug and alcohol) release records, they are required to include the following notice from the CFR Title 42:2.32:

“This information has been disclosed to you from records protected by Federal confidentiality rules (42 CFR part 2). The Federal rules prohibit you from making any further disclosure of this information unless further disclosure is expressly permitted by the written consent of the person to whom it pertains or as otherwise permitted by 42 CFR part 2. A general authorization for the release of medical or other information is NOT sufficient for this purpose. The Federal rules restrict any use of the information to criminally investigate or prosecute any alcohol or drug abuse patient.” Source: http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2002/octqtr/42cfr2.32.htm

However, the law allows the records to be disclosed to any entity the person names in the consent. When you complete the SSA-827: Authorization to Disclose Information to SSA be sure that it specifically mentions the release of drug and alcohol treatment records.

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What is 1619(b) Status and how is it determined?

1619(b) is continued Medicaid coverage for those individuals that were receiving SSI benefits prior to returning to work. You can find more information on SSA's website here: http://www.socialsecurity.gov/disabilityresearch/wi/1619b.htm

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How can we track Medicaid reimbursements?

Most SOAR programs that have a hospital collaboration will work with the hospital’s billing department to collect information on reimbursed expenses for each SOAR applicant approved. Some are able to separate out Medicaid and Medicare reimbursements; others have just a total for all reimbursements. The information isn't any more complicated than: "We helped 100 individuals get approved for SSI/SSDI and the hospital has been reimbursed $500,000 in the past year in Medicaid/Medicare expenses for these individuals."  It can be helpful to also collect the totals for unreimbursed expenses for those same individuals for the year prior to approval to use as a comparison.  One SOAR provider looked at emergency room usage for the year prior and the year after approval to see if there was a reduction. They found a 24 percent reduction in ER usage and 52 percent reduction in psychiatric ER usage.

Some SOAR providers will meet monthly with the billing department and collect reimbursement data, others will do it quarterly.  We would recommend doing whatever works best for the staff at the hospital and the SOAR staff.  

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Question:
If an applicant is approved for SSI/SSDI, will they lose their medicaid and be placed on medicare? If they can have both, which would be their primary insurance?

If a person is approved for both SSI and SSDI they will maintain Medicaid because SSI benefits include Medicaid. However, some states require a separate Medicaid application, (https://www.ssa.gov/disabilityresearch/wi/medicaid.htm).

Medicaid coverage for services varies from state to state. Here is a link that will take you to your state's Medicaid agency: https://www.medicaid.gov/about-us/contact-us/contact-state-page.html.

SSDI benefits include Medicare, but there is typically a 24 month waiting period before the SSDI beneficiary can begin to have Medicare coverage (see Page 12 at https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10029.pdf).

Once the beneficiary has both Medicaid and Medicare, Medicare is typically the primary insurance.

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Question:
Are the CEUs offered by SOAR Online Course approved by the American Counseling Association or the National Board of Certified Counselors?

The CEUs offered by the SOAR Online Course are approved by the National Association of Social Workers (NASW).

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How long is the SOAR Online training?

We estimate that it will take 16-20 hours to complete the Online Course.  This includes the completion of the Practice Case in which you will submit an SSI/SSDI application packet for a fictitious client to the SOAR TA Center.

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Question:
In the SOAR Online Course practice case, I inadvertently loaded blank forms 827 & 1696. What do I do?

If you go back to the Practice Case in Class 2 you should be able to delete the documents you uploaded and re-upload the correct versions.  If you have already submitted your entire application packet in Class 7 you will not be able to make any of the changes online.  However, you can email the correct forms to soaronline@prainc.com

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Question:
Once I have completed and passed the Online Course, what is my title?

Individual providers can choose whatever title works best for themselves and their agency.  Some examples that we have seen include SOAR practitioner, SOAR benefits specialist, SOAR case manager, and SOAR specialist. Others will use their traditional title (e.g. social worker, case manager, outreach worker) and say that they are SOAR trained or certified in the SOAR process. 

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How much does the SOAR online course cost?

The SOAR online course is available free of charge. Anyone interested in SOAR training is welcome to enroll at any time. The course is self-paced and you can receive support and assistance by contacting your SOAR TA Center Liaison or SOAR state/local lead.

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Question:
I'm trying to upload the SSA forms for the SOAR online course and I'm getting a message that the file size is too large. How do I submit my forms for the course if I cannot upload them?

If you are having difficulty uploading documents for the SOAR online course, please contact us at 518-439-7415 x2. We can walk you through the uploading process or can arrange to accept the documents via email or fax.

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